From Objections to Trust: The Inner Game of Sales

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The Great Friends Podcast
WITH JOHN WHEELER
From Objections to Trust: The Inner Game of Sales
The Great Friends Podcast
WITH JOHN WHEELER
From Objections to Trust: The Inner Game of Sales

In this episode of Great Friends, John Wheeler welcomes Doug Cartwright, sales coach, author, and founder of Alchemy Sales Coaching, for a masterclass in practical selling and emotional regulation. Doug begins at 16, working retail in a Utah mall, where he discovers that genuine connection (“Who’s your team?”) consistently outperforms the standard “Can I help you?” He carries that lesson through a door-to-door career that spans a quarter-million knocks and thousands of trained reps.

Doug frames success with a simple ratio: State (80%) + Story (15%) + Strategy (5%). He maintains that leaders cannot out-strategize a negative state, so they must prioritize energy first, then narrative, then tactics. He offers fast state-shifters that any founder or operator can deploy: cold plunges, exercise, breathwork, time in nature, gratitude sprints, and his Triple C checkpoint—Calm in the body, Confident in oneself, Clear in thought.

Inside the sale, Doug shows how trust becomes the real objection. Through a role-play, he demonstrates isolation (“Other than price, what else would hold you back?”) to surface the true concern, then closes with buyer-empowering language (“Would you be opposed to…?”). He also reframes “I need to think about it” as a signal to get curious: “You must say that for a reason.”

Throughout, Doug returns to a throughline: manage systems, not moods. Leaders who codify inputs—sleep, training, diet; discovery questions; objection playbooks—outperform those who ride emotional waves. And when stories spiral, he advises rewriting them on purpose, choosing narratives that keep teams open, optimistic, and effective.

This is a high-leverage conversation for CEOs, entrepreneurs, and clinicians who sell solutions every day and want to do it with more clarity, humanity, and repeatability.

YOU'LL LEARN
  • How to open with connection instead of “Can I help you?”
  • How to isolate the real objection by asking, “Other than price, what else would hold you back?”
  • How to earn trust fast using simple discovery questions that reveal intent
  • How to close without pressure using go-for-no phrasing like, “Would you be opposed to…?”
  • How to manage a system—not emotions—by setting daily inputs and running the playbook regardless of mood
  • How to change state in minutes through cold plunges, breathwork, movement, or a gratitude practice
  • How to apply the Triple C framework—Calm, Confident, Clear—before key decisions
  • How to rewrite unhelpful stories on purpose to stay resourceful and present
  • How to ask for sensitive details with ease by treating them as no big deal
  • How to coach teams to measure activity and trust, not just outcomes
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    You'll learn

  • How to open with connection instead of “Can I help you?”
  • How to isolate the real objection by asking, “Other than price, what else would hold you back?”
  • How to earn trust fast using simple discovery questions that reveal intent
  • How to close without pressure using go-for-no phrasing like, “Would you be opposed to…?”
  • How to manage a system—not emotions—by setting daily inputs and running the playbook regardless of mood
  • How to change state in minutes through cold plunges, breathwork, movement, or a gratitude practice
  • How to apply the Triple C framework—Calm, Confident, Clear—before key decisions
  • How to rewrite unhelpful stories on purpose to stay resourceful and present
  • How to ask for sensitive details with ease by treating them as no big deal
  • How to coach teams to measure activity and trust, not just outcomes
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